@starbreaker we need a masto app that doesn't require entire kitchen sinks/a web browser
Same with chat, things like GitLab, etc
Everyone in their glass towers, spoiled by their high salaries and ubiquitous city fibre connections, sees the web and thinks it "runs everywhere".
I know and help rural people who have computers with 512 MB RAM that barely run Mint and can't open browsers due to memory. They use AbiWord and claws mail, and that's it. Think of what they're missing.
@starbreaker we as an industry have left software requirements ("requires pentium 3 or higher") behind to say "it just needs a browser!", without thinking of how bloated complex and insecure browsers are
I dare say that the web is classist at this point. It favours the richer class, the people who can afford fibre and Ryzen. It doesn't care about those still on satellite or ADSL (<25M). It doesn't care about those who have to buy computers from goodwill, typically 5-8 years old.
@starbreaker @awilfox Hell, the Intel compute stick I bought last month was nearly $130 and it's not really useful for webapp garbage. And it's still too expensive for most of India or sub-Saharan Africa.
@awilfox @starbreaker but otoh large amounts of stuff is moving online, and it abstracts away GUI programming, which can be beneficial...
@a_breakin_glass @awilfox Beneficial for whom? And what's so good about GUIs, anyway?
@awilfox @starbreaker this is really speaking to so many things i'm thinking and feeling lately.
@awilfox @starbreaker there is much work to be done and improvements to be made, but I think progressive enhancement and accessibility are seriously considered and addressed in browsers and the Web.
@npd @starbreaker ARIA is a pipe dream. Still nobody uses it. And even if they did it only provides a modicum of help for people with complete or total vision loss. Start talking about colour blindness (not just red/green either), motor issues (which can make frequent mouse/touch motions painful), or any other disability and the web devs run away screaming.
I don't like MS or Apple very much but they at least consider those disabilities. Some KDE devs do also.
@awilfox shit, my city only got >30mbit service for most people last year. Also, I love it when I have to enable JavaScript on my browser and get to watch an otherwise fast laptop crawl just to render some basic text form. It's the best.
@awilfox @starbreaker It definitely doesn't care about rural populations or developing countries (despite their pretensions otherwise; nobody in a developing country is going to have a gaming rig on par with the one I'm piecing together month by month).