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I don't mean new IE in like "oh rag on the popular one"

I mean as in shit breaks without it, because sites sometimes require Chrome specific bullshit so I have to have this piece of shit installed for the occasional site that won't work

And Google is unilaterally dictating standards by abusing its market position

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Just like Microsoft did with ActiveX (remember that?) Chrome has managed to lock vendors into its ecosystem through Electron. And we are told Electron is for our own good.

@mindnmotion it's the alphabet transition:

"Alphabet: Evil is one or our many businesses"

@mindnmotion @Elizafox Google's "don't be evil" has now shifted and applies to the *user* not to them.

Which explains their views on privacy and all that stuff (also ties in nicely with the uhh latest news surrounding Google)

@Elizafox

Not to be a Google defender, but...

The goal of ActiveX was to make the web Window-only. The goal of Chrome is to make sure you can access Google's services from any computer. The Chrome-only stuff is irritating and bad, but it's not mandatory-Windows-95 bad.

@Elizafox NaCL was a transparent attempt at ActiveX Part 2 - WebAssembly isn't that much better...

> And Google is unilaterally dictating standards by abusing its market position

so much this - Google is ramming through standards to cause fatigue implementing them for people who aren't google, and for shit that is a security hazard waiting to happen and only good for ChromeOS (cough WebUSB)

@calvin WebAssembly has actual support behind it from browsers besides Chrome. It's actually industry-wide. Even Microsoft backs it.

NaCl is truly evil though and /does/ reinvent ActiveX.

@Elizafox well, true in that WebASM has buy in - I just hate it on a moral level

@calvin I don't mind it? It's just VM bytecode. *shrug*

@Elizafox more "the web is a document platform, you bastards!"

but that fight was lost decades ago, so I'll just continue to be bitter on the web

@calvin yeah that battle is long since lost; now imo the fight should be "exterminate JavaScript"

if we HAVE to have code on the web, at least make it not js

@Elizafox @calvin The problem is that every attempt to use WWW as an application platform has basically been guaranteed to be horrible.

ActiveX: Horrible, insecure, and proprietary.
Java: Horrible, insecure, slow, and conflicting compatibility.
Shockwave: Horrible, slow.
Flash: Horrible, insecure, slow.
JavaScript+HTML5: Horrible, horrifically slow.
Silverlight: Horrible, proprietary.
NaCl: Ditto.
WebAssembly: Probably horrible and insecure.

@calvin @Elizafox

THE WWW IS FOR
DOCUMENTS
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@Elizafox Chrome also has the 10ยนโฐโฐ Pound Gorillopoly actively trying to make people use it with 'Works Best With Chrome' on various of their products.