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politics, business, medium-spiciness take 

Businesses have no place in politics

Non-profits in the US aren't allowed to be political unless it's associated with their mission. It should be the same for all business.

Corporations aren't people.

They're not entitled to political opinions.

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@Elizafox

Taking this a step further, celebrities have the right to be political, but for the most part they're egotistical buffoons who can't think their way out of paper bags. So we'd all be better off if they kept that shit to themselves and just passed the money around in silence.

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@xenophora @Elizafox money has to get out of politics

A-political is very political too, and it is hard for the news -, movie -, game industry. Who are celebrities is largely affected by choices about who to put in a movie and such. (btw any movie hat basically gets free material to lend from the army goes through their filter)

There used to be anti-trust laws splitting media companies up when they got too big.

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@jasper @Elizafox

[sigh] Yeah. I was just grumbling offline to somebody the other day that apparently we need yet *another* Rambo movie. But... still no word on when that big-budget movie about the Vietnam War made by/for/about the Vietnamese is coming out. :/

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@xenophora there was like a prestigious documentary about Vietnam by Ken Burns? Haven't seen it, usually like FAIR.
fair.org/home/ken-burns-vietna

Not the same as a big shot movie, though.

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@jasper

Yeah that was the one my friend recommended, too.

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@xenophora @Elizafox

This is a terrible take.


Most of the people who express this take are people who don't like that a significant number of outspoken celebrities aren't expressing conservative opinions.

Celebrities are individuals and have the right to express their opinions like anybody else.

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@Aerdan @Elizafox

They have the right. But I maintain that most are spoiled, small-minded toads with terrible judgment'/ethics, so there's a better than 75% chance that we'd all be better off if they just kept quiet.

And I'm not a conservative. I'm probably well to the left of most celebs and their Col Flagg cosplay where they whine about Putin putting cyanide in their tooth polish or some shit.

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@xenophora @Elizafox

So you don't have any specific examples of celebrities who need to shut up and sing, huh? Really?

Go on, name me some names.

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@Aerdan @Elizafox

You're being pretty combative here, considering that all I said was that I *wish* these people would put a sock in it, NOT that I expected them to.

I suspect that however many I named, it would not be enough for you, but hey we could start with an easy option like *Every fucking Kardashian* and possibly every Trek actor ever. (I've seen Shatner, Wheaton, and Sirtis all make major asses of themselves online, for instance.)

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@xenophora @Elizafox

Not only are they entitled to make asses of themselves, they also aren’t (usually) spreading misinformation the way, say, the anti-vaxxers do. However, most sensible people don’t take those fucks seriously.

Consider, instead, George Takei, Tom Morello, or Bill Nye. Do they need to shut up and sing?

re: politics, business, medium-spiciness take 

@Aerdan @Elizafox

Takei slobbers over horrid Neoliberal Dems and also hates on fat people for no good reason, so yeah. He'd be pretty high up on my STFU list, since you asked.

No idea who Morello is.

Bill Nye's show has always had political overtones (though I've also heard he's kind of a putz IRL), so that's a different case since you can at least argue that it's part of his job.

Can we just agree to disagree now? I'm pretty ready to move on.

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@xenophora @Elizafox

Do you know Rage Against The Machine?

re: politics, business, medium-spiciness take 

@Aerdan

Do you know My Good Friend The Mute Button?

politics, business, medium-spiciness take 

@Elizafox the state is a corporation and yet it definitely has a political opinion. Good luck denying it to the state.

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@Elizafox At least until the dumb-ass court ruled that Hobby Lobby as a corporation had certain characteristics like a person, and could have a religious affiliation, so I'm assuming they can political opinions under that ruling, which in my opinion is totally wrong.

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